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Hi Gordon -- late to the party but I'm new to your site. Thanks for the excellent review, I learned a few things (notably the myths over the 1857 mutiny), and I was struck by your common-sense point about pay and cost of living. Correct me if I am wrong, but I believe that Ghurka pay was still adjusted based upon old Indian Army rates until relatively recently -- but is now equal to the rest of the British Army?

One point that might be food for thought: I think a huge part of the Italian failures can be put down to (a) lack of motivation -- there simply wasn't the will to conquer that the Germans had -- (b) the appalling treatment of the ORs by the officer corps -- (c) the demoralization that must surely have resulted from having equipment that was sub-standard compared to the Germans and British. When properly trained, equipped, and led, the Italians did fight well -- Rommel was unstinting in his praise for the Ariete armoured division. I think Major Hans von Luck also had very good things to say about the Auto-Sahariana formation recce company attached to his battalion as the Afrika Korp's right flank.

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Yes you are right about the Italians in WW1, they fought well under very indifferent officers and had 400,000 deaths. In WW2 their corps on the Eastern Front was very good, until Mussolini insisted in expanding it into an army, and in N Africa some of their units were excellent. I was referring to today’s Italian Army which is a joke. Re Gurkhas, because the Tripartite Agreement, which allows us to recruit Gurkhas, said that the pay in the British and Nepal armies was to be the same as that of the Indian army our chaps basic pay was as for India. Out of India a man could not survive on Indian army pay so we added allowances to give the Gurkha in the British army the same take home pay as his British counterpart, allowing for the fact that the latter paid income tax and food and accomodation charges which the Gurkha did not This has now been rationalised and the Gurkha is now paid in exactly the same way, and with exactly the same deductions as any other soldier of the British army. Many thanks for your comments.

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Hi Gordon, thanks for clarifying on the pay and benefits -- makes sense to me. I think a book on the Italian Army in World War 2 would make an interesting read as a comparative study to the other major nations. I remember reading one a few years back but it was short on detail and VERY short on personal narratives. Never worked with the Italians during my own time in the green so couldn't say that they're like these days. Will have to take your word for it.

Nations that joined WW1 a little later are interesting: from my reading the Italians certainly were unprepared in every way; but so were the Romanians who joined in 1916 and really should have known better by that stage. In particular, they were short of artillery shells (estimated expenditure compared to actual expenditure was wildly out of whack) and had no industrial capacity to make up this shortfall. Sad how history keeps repeating itself in this sort of way ...

Great to hear some reflections from perspectives that are seldom heard these days so I look forward to reading more about Ghurkas and Monty and Napoleonic militia.

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About time that facts and context were introduced into the writing of history. Maybe it’s to be filed under the heading of fiction. Many thanks and keep up the good work.

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Excellent. Thanks for the warning Gordon.

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